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Republican governor vetoes Oklahoma constitutional carry bill

Concealed Carry, Gun Laws, Politics & 2nd Amendment, Safety, Second Amendment, Self Defense


Gov. Mary Fallin dropped veto ink on a permitless carry measure on her desk last week, saying it was dangerous to police and others (Photo: Fallin’s office)

Rejecting a popular permitless carry measure on Friday, Gov. Mary Fallin said the current mandate to obtain a license to carry a concealed firearm in the state was “reasonable.”

Fallin, a Republican who ran for office on a strong pro-gun platform in part, vetoed SB 1212 which would have allowed Oklahoma residents to carry a concealed handgun without first having to pass a training course and obtain a permit. She argued in a statement to lawmakers that the move was done out of a concern for public safety.

“I believe the firearms requirement we current have in state law are few and reasonable,” said Fallin. “Senate Bill 1212 eliminates the training requirements for persons carrying a firearm in Oklahoma. It reduces the level of the background check necessary to carry a gun.”

Fallin went on to describe the state’s current gun laws regarding concealed carry as “effective, appropriate and minimal,” pointing out that she has signed multiple carry laws into effect since taking office in 2011 after leaving Congress.

It was the very question of her term in office that drew commentary from the National Rifle Association, who had urged Fallin to approve the measure and directed members to contact her on the matter.

“Gov. Fallin vetoed this important piece of self-defense legislation despite the state legislature’s overwhelming approval of the bill and her commitment to NRA members to support constitutional carry when she ran for reelection,” noted Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA’s lobbying arm, in a statement. “Make no mistake, this temporary setback will be rectified when Oklahoma residents elect a new, and genuinely pro-Second Amendment governor.”

Fallin’s social media page over the weekend took a hit with over 1,500 comments, overwhelmingly negative, posted on the link to her veto statement on the constitutional carry proposal. An unlikely ally of the governor’s, the Oklahoma Rifle Association, the NRA’s official state affiliate, broke with the parent organization and opposed SB 1212, a move that also resulted in the group’s social media accounts getting scorched by upset Second Amendment advocates.

The measure passed the state House 59-28 last month before rolling through the Senate last week 33-9, margins that are strong but not quite veto-proof. The sponsor of the bill, state Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow, argued the “requirements are a burden to the poor and elderly who should be afforded the right to defend themselves without having to pay the government to do so.” Dahm said he was disappointed but not surprised at Fallin’s action, describing the governor as a “campaign conservative.”

Term-limited, Fallin is not one of the crowded field of candidates standing for this year’s gubernatorial election in the state. At least 10 Republicans including state auditor Gary Jones and Lt. Gov. Todd Lamb are heading into a primary election next month, with many in the race publicly supporting SB 1212.



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Reader Comments of the Week — October 13, 2018

25 Comments

  1. The residents of Oklahoma should have a recall on the governor. She has been bought off. Have an investigation of her finances.

    1. I applaud the Governor’s action. If passed this bill would make Oklahoma a less safe place. Licensing, Background checks and training is in the best interest of all gun owners and the general public. She didn’t try and limit Second Amendment rights while at the same time a potentially damaging bill.

    2. She is only vetoing a bill that is for an unwritten concealed carry permit, which requires no training of any kind. I’ve had a concealed carry permit since the end of 1999, and I have carried ever since, and I don’t believe just anyone should carry a weapon without a concealed carry permit and without any training, if your going to give untrained people a concealed carry permit, you might as well give a 10 yr old child a concealed weapon. I don’t live in Oklahoma, but I was born there, and I think this Govenor is using good common sense, and if she believed in just telling anyone that they can just carry a gun, I would move out of Oklahoma. She’s using good common sense.

      1. You got it! I live in California and carry too.
        We don’t let people drive an automobile without training so how can it make sense to allow someone to carry a firearm with no training?
        I believe anyone over the age of 21 should be allowed to carry a gun, but only after training and qualification.
        Mike
        Morro Bay, CA

    1. The “Broad” as you called her, was right to veto SB1212 because if you picture an person purchasing an automatic 45 and has never hand one in his or her with two small children in the household. The individual leaves the gun unprotected and one of the children picks up the pistol and you can see what might happen. The adult did not have the training and knowledge to secure the weapon and left it laying around where a child could get.

  2. Brothers and sisters in Oklahoma. You still have the momentum. Push back…hard!
    Use your constitutional tools…
    Representatives, recall petition, petition to over-ride…

    My prayers are with you!

  3. She says it is dangerous to cops but most cops are strong supporters of our 2nd amendment and most people who carry guns would be supporters of cops. She is a treasonous coward.

    1. I can see where you would be upset. As a retired Police Officer I very much support the 2nd Amendment and believe that anyone who knows how to actually handle a firearm and is of sound mind and not a serious criminal should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon. This should be accomplished by issuing a permit FREE OF CHARGE to those who apply and shown that they are not a danger to themselves or others should they be allowed to carry a firearm. By making this permit and it’s application free of charge then you are not hurting the poor or elderly. Allowing anybody and everyone to simply carry a deadly firearm is asking for trouble.

  4. It’s very apparent that she has become a “fair weather” conservative. Just trying to get the left wing’s popular press attention.
    However, it is truly paramount that “safe handling” of ANY firearm must always be taken into consideration. But that might take into account some parental interaction. Instead of just handing a child a video game or watching a show or movie, where only the death toll matters. Jeez…. Think people!!!!

  5. Do not be fooled by Republican politicians. At the end of the day the agenda is the same on both sides and we are constantly being played. Remember a lot of people are making money from the conceal carry license racket, instructors, gun ranges, and the state itself. Always follow the money.

    1. Concerning comment from Randy concerning opposition to constitutional carry legislation, whose wallets would be thinner given constitutional carry legislation, Touché, or in English, very much on point.

  6. The governor vetoed an act of the legislature, which is within the governor’s specified powers. The ball, so to speak, is now in the state legislatures court regarding an override of the governor’s action. I would think that members the state legislature need to hear from their constituents.

    1. According to the 10 amendment the second amendment takes gun legislation out of the hands of the individual states. The tenth amendment states “The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” Problem here is the second amendment does delegate that power to the United States. Consequently, the individual states have no say in the matter. It is federal jurisdiction.

  7. She obviously did not do her homework. If she had she would not have vetoed it. Constitutional carry makes every criminal wonder if the person he decides to confront is armed. Without constitutional carry the odds are in his favor and he is not as concerned. Concealed carry is better then open carry for obvious reasons and we had both here in Arizona and crime was becoming worse each year. As a matter of fact in and around Phoenix we were becoming the kidnap and car jack capital of America. Then our congress passed and governor signed a constitutional carry law. Crime started down and has continued down nearly every year since. When everyone can carry not everyone needs to carry in order for the threat to be diminished considerably. Just the fact they can is enough to bring crime down. Furthermore, something that governor in Oklahoma may not know is an armed society is a friendly very polite society. As a matter of fact it is interesting how much positive effect that has on people.

    Furthermore, the second amendment provides that right. After all it does say keep and “bear” arms (in other words carry).

    1. Thanks Don,
      I don’t think people want to use guns but will to protect them selves and families. Deterrents work. If little Johnny cuts the legs off the table and there are no ways to punish him, he WILL do it again. Talk to him and make sure he understands what he has done and then if it happens again, well you know where IM GOING WITH THIS.
      Thanks for your comment. Ken

  8. HOW ARE WE FREE when we have to get the governments ‘permit’ to own and carry a gun. Do we have to have the government’s permission to protect ourselves?
    Our Constitution was to protect us FROM AN OVERREACHING GOVERNMENT! Our government is supposed to work for us!
    Our 2nd Amendment was not written to be a ‘government’ power over us, but to protect us from the government.
    We are not to be under a ‘dictator’ or ‘king’, but a ‘free’ people!
    We must still fight for our freedoms because, as we all can see, they are ‘little bit by little bit’ being taken away from us!
    IF YOU WISH TO CARRY; IT IS YOUR RIGHT!…until they take away the 2nd Amendment;…Which many are trying to do, ‘little bit by little bit’.

  9. I have stood next to people at the gun range and even at the armed guard testing facility that i wouldnt want any where near me with a fire arm. I think the cost for training and the license should go down but the people do need to have a safety and competency class.

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